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SU!: Scam orders question

beckyevans

Hi all,

I had a text from a down line member and she got a scam order email.  I don't think she ever opted in.   I went to demo directory and searched our zip code and her name does not come up.  You can put her first and last name in and it does comes up.  Her question is how are they getting her info?  

Thanks!

Becky Evans
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Re: SU!: Scam orders question

Tanya Stottlemire

it is looking like somehow everyone on the sudsol group received the same one. Not sure how.
On Oct 9, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Becky Evans wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I had a text from a down line member and she got a scam order email. I don't think she ever opted in. I went to demo directory and searched our zip code and her name does not come up. You can put her first and last name in and it does comes up.  Her question is how are they getting her info?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Becky Evans
>
>

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RE: SU!: Scam orders question

Coleen Astalos

No, it's not related to SUDSOL (I didn't get it and I'm definitely on
SUDSOL).  It's through the SU! site somehow.  At first I thought only those
that had DBWS's (and thus their email address is on their site), but my
downline who does not have a DBWS gets them too.  So somehow it's thru the
SU! demo directory.  They've figured out how to access the SU! database and
mass email a TON of people at a time (probably thousands at a time) which is
why so many of us also get it.

 

I think SU! could stop this if they encoded the database and then only their
"look up a demonstrator" page has the key to unscramble the results of the
query.  Since it doesn't directly impact them (other than our complaints), I
doubt it's high on their priority list to solve.

 

-Coleen

 

Coleen Astalos, Stampin' Up! Demonstrator
Alamosa, CO, coleen@
See my website at http://alamosa.stampinup.net
<http://alamosa.stampinup.net/>
Are you a demonstrator? Join me on SUDSOL - Your 24/7 Upline!
<http://www.cartville.com/app/?Clk=2848375>

 

From: sudsol@ [mailto:sudsol@] On Behalf Of
Tanya Stottlemire
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 11:18 AM
To: Becky Evans
Cc: SUDSOL
Subject: Re: SU!: Scam orders question

 

 

it is looking like somehow everyone on the sudsol group received the same
one. Not sure how.

On Oct 9, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Becky Evans wrote:





 

Hi all,

I had a text from a down line member and she got a scam order email. I don't
think she ever opted in. I went to demo directory and searched our zip code
and her name does not come up. You can put her first and last name in and it
does comes up. Her question is how are they getting her info?

Thanks!

Becky Evans

 



Coleen Astalos
SLB Member


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RE: SU!: Scam orders question

Lynda Glassmoyer

I agree; it's totally unrelated to SUDSOL.  I've got downlines who get them
all the time and they're not on SUDSOL.  The scope is obviously much broader
than that, and I think Coleen's explanation is pretty likely.  This has been
going on for years; only the names and the wordings have evolved over time.
Since it's an unfortunate fact of life (like mosquitoes), we just need to
make demonstrators aware of the situation, and then click delete when these
messages land in our mailboxes.  It's not only SU demonstrators who get
these, but reps for other direct sales companies as well.  

 

I doubt Stampin' Up! actually comprehends how widespread the situation is
because only a small percentage of us report them.  But whether they
underestimate the scope or not, like Coleen mentioned, since it doesn't
directly impact the company or cause harm to demonstrators who click
"delete", it's just an unfortunate nuisance as a direct sales rep.
Personally I don't see any point in reporting the emails because there's
nothing Stampin' Up! can or will do about it, and it just ties up DS's time
that they could be using to service demonstrators with "solve"-able
problems/questions.  And it takes OUR time and energy away from attending to
productive activities and doing what we love, too.

 

So my advice:  practice using the delete button daily!  No need to reply or
take any other action to encourage these scums.  :)

 

Lynda Glassmoyer

 

 

From: sudsol@ [mailto:sudsol@] On Behalf Of
Coleen Astalos
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 12:42 PM
To: 'Tanya Stottlemire'; 'Becky Evans'
Cc: 'SUDSOL'
Subject: RE: SU!: Scam orders question

 






No, it's not related to SUDSOL (I didn't get it and I'm definitely on
SUDSOL).  It's through the SU! site somehow.  At first I thought only those
that had DBWS's (and thus their email address is on their site), but my
downline who does not have a DBWS gets them too.  So somehow it's thru the
SU! demo directory.  They've figured out how to access the SU! database and
mass email a TON of people at a time (probably thousands at a time) which is
why so many of us also get it.

 

I think SU! could stop this if they encoded the database and then only their
"look up a demonstrator" page has the key to unscramble the results of the
query.  Since it doesn't directly impact them (other than our complaints), I
doubt it's high on their priority list to solve.

 

-Coleen

 

Coleen Astalos, Stampin' Up! Demonstrator
Alamosa, CO, coleen@ <mailto:coleen@>
See my website at http://alamosa.stampinup.net
<http://alamosa.stampinup.net/>
Are you a demonstrator? Join me on SUDSOL - Your 24/7 Upline!
<http://www.cartville.com/app/?Clk=2848375>

 

From: sudsol@ <mailto:sudsol@>
[mailto:sudsol@] On Behalf Of Tanya Stottlemire
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 11:18 AM
To: Becky Evans
Cc: SUDSOL
Subject: Re: SU!: Scam orders question

 

 

it is looking like somehow everyone on the sudsol group received the same
one. Not sure how.

On Oct 9, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Becky Evans wrote:

 

 

Hi all,

I had a text from a down line member and she got a scam order email. I don't
think she ever opted in. I went to demo directory and searched our zip code
and her name does not come up. You can put her first and last name in and it
does comes up. Her question is how are they getting her info?

Thanks!

Becky Evans

 

 








Lynda Glassmoyer
Post Falls, ID
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Re: SU!: Scam orders question

Ellen

Linda and Coleen are totally right. These people find addresses in many ways.

In my day job, my work e-mail is published and on the web.  Since I do
classified ads, I get people wanting to give away free everything from
a puppy to a motor bike.  This is a farm paper, so that does not
really go for us.  They always want to run it for a long time, pay
with a check delivered for a different amount etc. AND the English is
not correct.

I also get work at home e-mails on my personal e-mail. They are very
good at finding those e-mails and creative on what they offer or want.

The DELETE button is your best friend.

Ellen William
Stamping in North Dakota

On 10/10/13, Lynda@ <Lynda@> wrote:

> I agree; it's totally unrelated to SUDSOL.  I've got downlines who get them
> all the time and they're not on SUDSOL.  The scope is obviously much
> broader
> than that, and I think Coleen's explanation is pretty likely.  This has
> been
> going on for years; only the names and the wordings have evolved over time.
> Since it's an unfortunate fact of life (like mosquitoes), we just need to
> make demonstrators aware of the situation, and then click delete when these
> messages land in our mailboxes.  It's not only SU demonstrators who get
> these, but reps for other direct sales companies as well.
>
>
>
> I doubt Stampin' Up! actually comprehends how widespread the situation is
> because only a small percentage of us report them.  But whether they
> underestimate the scope or not, like Coleen mentioned, since it doesn't
> directly impact the company or cause harm to demonstrators who click
> "delete", it's just an unfortunate nuisance as a direct sales rep.
> Personally I don't see any point in reporting the emails because there's
> nothing Stampin' Up! can or will do about it, and it just ties up DS's time
> that they could be using to service demonstrators with "solve"-able
> problems/questions.  And it takes OUR time and energy away from attending
> to
> productive activities and doing what we love, too.
>
>
>
> So my advice:  practice using the delete button daily!  No need to reply or
> take any other action to encourage these scums.  :)
>
>
>
> Lynda Glassmoyer
>
>
>
>
>
> From: sudsol@ [mailto:sudsol@] On Behalf Of
> Coleen Astalos
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 12:42 PM
> To: 'Tanya Stottlemire'; 'Becky Evans'
> Cc: 'SUDSOL'
> Subject: RE: SU!: Scam orders question
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> No, it's not related to SUDSOL (I didn't get it and I'm definitely on
> SUDSOL).  It's through the SU! site somehow.  At first I thought only those
> that had DBWS's (and thus their email address is on their site), but my
> downline who does not have a DBWS gets them too.  So somehow it's thru the
> SU! demo directory.  They've figured out how to access the SU! database and
> mass email a TON of people at a time (probably thousands at a time) which
> is
> why so many of us also get it.
>
>
>
> I think SU! could stop this if they encoded the database and then only
> their
> "look up a demonstrator" page has the key to unscramble the results of the
> query.  Since it doesn't directly impact them (other than our complaints),
> I
> doubt it's high on their priority list to solve.
>
>
>
> -Coleen
>
>
>
> Coleen Astalos, Stampin' Up! Demonstrator
> Alamosa, CO, coleen@ <mailto:coleen@>
> See my website at http://alamosa.stampinup.net
> <http://alamosa.stampinup.net/>
> Are you a demonstrator? Join me on SUDSOL - Your 24/7 Upline!
> <http://www.cartville.com/app/?Clk=2848375>
>
>
>
> From: sudsol@ <mailto:sudsol@>
> [mailto:sudsol@] On Behalf Of Tanya Stottlemire
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 11:18 AM
> To: Becky Evans
> Cc: SUDSOL
> Subject: Re: SU!: Scam orders question
>
>
>
>
>
> it is looking like somehow everyone on the sudsol group received the same
> one. Not sure how.
>
> On Oct 9, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Becky Evans wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I had a text from a down line member and she got a scam order email. I
> don't
> think she ever opted in. I went to demo directory and searched our zip code
> and her name does not come up. You can put her first and last name in and
> it
> does comes up. Her question is how are they getting her info?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Becky Evans
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>